Thursday, November 19, 2009
Well, it’s finally finished. And much to my surprise and pleasure, it sounds good, too.
Here are some photos.
I must say it’s been a heck of a ride. I’m glad I took it and I hope everyone has enjoyed it with me. Now I’m looking forward to learning to play this for a while and then - you guessed it - get started on #2.
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Thursday, November 19, 2009
Sunday, August 9, 2009
Test Staining and Cutting the Nut
Sunday, August 09, 2009
I haven’t been able to spend much time at all on my mandolin for the last couple of weeks, between travel and family time, so that’s why I have been a bit delinquent in updating this blog - but I have gotten some done and hope to get more this week.
I finally managed to get the rest of the binding on the body of the instrument and then get started on binding the peghead.
Because the binding needs to be held tightly while drying, especially for the first couple of hours, I used some wedges of scrap wood on the binding since there doesn’t seem to be a better way to get the job done is such tight quarters.
Here are a couple of shots to show how the back binding came out.

I made my first attempt at staining on the scrap soundboard I prepared earlier for this purpose. To begin I started by rubbing down the entire soundboard with water. I read that when using water-based stain that the dry spruce is bad for soaking up a lot the stain right where it makes contact which makes it difficult to “feather” it if you are attempting to create a sunburst, but by applying the water first, the stain tends to soak in less and give you a chance to feather it. It’s not much to see, but here is my soundboard after applying the water only.
Next, I made another really stupid mistake. I say stupid because there is no excuse what-so-ever for having made it. To create my sunburst, I purchased three different stain colors - Tobacco Brown, Red, and Amber - that are to be used from darkest to lightest from the outside edge to the center. Since I wanted to start at the outside edge and work my way inward, I intended to use the Tobacco Brown to begin. So what I did was I grabbed the Amber (the lightest color) instead of the Brown and rather than actually READING the label, I ASSUMED I grabbed the right bottle. Stupid. Anyway, since I promised to show both the good and the bad, here is how it worked out.
Using a glass cup and a cut-up piece of an old cloth diaper that my wife purchased with a bunch of other material at an auction, I applied the amber stain around the outer edge of the soundboard. As light as it turned out, I assumed I had simply not mixed enough stain with the water, so I added some more stain to the mix and did it again.
Still not dark enough - but not being smart enough to LOOK at the label on the bottle to see what the color was OR what the recommended stain-to-water ratio is, I add even more stain and tried it again.
Better, but not really what I was hoping for, I decided to try mixing some red in to see what that would do. I went to my other two bottles of stain, read their labels, and lo-and-behold, realized I was using the wrong color. Idiot.
By now, the wood was pretty well saturated so I broke out my heat gun and spent some time drying the wood in preparation for staining all over again. Once dried, I mixed up cups of both red and brown and tried it again. Here is how it came out.
I don’t really like the way this came out, but I have yet another scrap soundboard that I will test on again. This time I think I will try it without the hide-glue sealer and after doing a much more thorough job of sanding.
Setting the stain aside, I moved on to cutting the slots into the nut. Opening up and removing the appropriately sized feeler gauge blades from the set my brother-in-law donated, I used my Dremel with a narrow cutting wheel to create my nut saw blades.
For the smallest three slots I was able to locate blades that were either exactly the desired thickness or 0.001” small, but for the largest one, 0.043”, there wasn’t a blade thick enough. For this one, I chose to use two blades, 0.020” and 0.021”, and glue them together with super-glue before cutting the blade slots. I figured that the thin glue layer would be somewhere around 0.002” thick giving me the overall 0.043” thickness I needed.
Turns out that these little saw blades work quite well. They cut the bone pretty easily and holding them in the proper orientation was no problem. I imagine that professionally made blades or files would work just a little bit easier and quicker, but for the price difference ($6.00 vs. $50.00 or more) I really like these guys. I recommend this method to anyone looking to buy or make a set of nut slot saws.
Unfortunately, this is about all I was able to get done in the last couple of weeks. Hopefully I will be able to work on it more this up-coming week.
I haven’t been able to spend much time at all on my mandolin for the last couple of weeks, between travel and family time, so that’s why I have been a bit delinquent in updating this blog - but I have gotten some done and hope to get more this week.
I finally managed to get the rest of the binding on the body of the instrument and then get started on binding the peghead.
Here are a couple of shots to show how the back binding came out.
By now, the wood was pretty well saturated so I broke out my heat gun and spent some time drying the wood in preparation for staining all over again. Once dried, I mixed up cups of both red and brown and tried it again. Here is how it came out.
Setting the stain aside, I moved on to cutting the slots into the nut. Opening up and removing the appropriately sized feeler gauge blades from the set my brother-in-law donated, I used my Dremel with a narrow cutting wheel to create my nut saw blades.
Unfortunately, this is about all I was able to get done in the last couple of weeks. Hopefully I will be able to work on it more this up-coming week.
Sunday, July 26, 2009
Fitting the Nut
Sunday, July 26, 2009
Not having parts and then having to make yet another unanticipated business trip have really slowed down progress this week, but I have been able to get a little bit done.
As you might recall, one of the last things I did last week was to seal my test soundboard with a mildly diluted hide glue formula. After it dried for a couple days, I spent about two hours hand-sanding it off to what looks like bare wood. It is my understanding that the goal here is to “clog” the otherwise open pores of the wood with the hide glue to prevent the stain from soaking in too much without inhibiting the stain from getting to the majority of the wood fibers. From what I have read of other people’s attempts at this, its almost impossible to sand it off too much. So, armed with my trusty 80 grit paper followed by some 120 and then 220 grit paper, I sanded off the dry hide-glue layer. Here is what it looks like.
One of the interesting things I found while sanding the glue off was that this is a really good opportunity to find and correct many of the imperfections in the contour of the top. The hide-glue dries just a little bit darker than the color of the raw spruce so each dip and valley, regardless of how shallow, shows up. I was quite surprised at the number of irregularities I found. I believe using this will really help the appearance of the finished mandolin.
With the fretboard now in place, it was time to install the nut. But before I could do that, I realized I needed a padded block to go under the neck while the mandolin is laying on its back to prevent hold the peghead off of the workbench. For this I picked a scrap piece of wood that measured about 1-1/2” x 3” x 4”, cut a shallow wedge in the center of the 4” long face, and glued a piece of soft leather to it. Here is how it looks.
NOW it was time to install the nut.
I started by measuring the width of my slot with my digital calipers. I measured both edges to make sure they were about the same, and much to my surprise, they were within .001” of each other.

I then measured my nut blank (bone - ordered and received way back).
Since the difference between the two was almost half the thickness of the nut blank, I decided to use my drill-press-drum-sander to get it roughly to size. (I used a piece of scrap would to verify the thickness before committing to the nut itself).
Once run through the drum sander, I measured again.
With less than 1/10th of an inch remaining to trim, I stopped there and finished sizing by hand.

I already new that the height of the blank would need to be trimmed but before I could do that, I needed to be able to mark the correct fret height on the nut and this could most easily be done once the nut was correctly sized to fit the slot.
Now to find a way to mark it.
I read somewhere that somebody had taken a wooden pencil, cut it down the center to create a “half” pencil and used this to mark the fret height - so that is what I did. Rather than try to cut the pencil, though, I used my drum sander again to sand away the unwanted half of the pencil.
Using my drum sander once again, I removed all but about 0.30 inches of material above the fret line and then hand-contoured it to shape before gluing it into the slot with Titebond. Here is how it looks now.

As you can see on the top photo above (if you look really hard, anyway) you can see I have marked where the notches for my strings will.
My brother-in-law read my last post where I wrote about buying and using feeler gauges for saws and offered up an old set that he had (and no longer used) for creating my “saws”. Not being one to look a gift horse in the mouth, I accepted and found that this set has a much wider selection of thicknesses.
And, last but not least, the remainder of my parts finally arrived late this week. Now that they are here and assuming I get to stay home a bit more this week, I should be able to get the rest of my binding on and try my hand at staining. I am really looking forward to the staining - if I am lucky, I may get to even try it on the mandolin, not just the test piece.
Not having parts and then having to make yet another unanticipated business trip have really slowed down progress this week, but I have been able to get a little bit done.
As you might recall, one of the last things I did last week was to seal my test soundboard with a mildly diluted hide glue formula. After it dried for a couple days, I spent about two hours hand-sanding it off to what looks like bare wood. It is my understanding that the goal here is to “clog” the otherwise open pores of the wood with the hide glue to prevent the stain from soaking in too much without inhibiting the stain from getting to the majority of the wood fibers. From what I have read of other people’s attempts at this, its almost impossible to sand it off too much. So, armed with my trusty 80 grit paper followed by some 120 and then 220 grit paper, I sanded off the dry hide-glue layer. Here is what it looks like.

With the fretboard now in place, it was time to install the nut. But before I could do that, I realized I needed a padded block to go under the neck while the mandolin is laying on its back to prevent hold the peghead off of the workbench. For this I picked a scrap piece of wood that measured about 1-1/2” x 3” x 4”, cut a shallow wedge in the center of the 4” long face, and glued a piece of soft leather to it. Here is how it looks.
I started by measuring the width of my slot with my digital calipers. I measured both edges to make sure they were about the same, and much to my surprise, they were within .001” of each other.
Now to find a way to mark it.
I read somewhere that somebody had taken a wooden pencil, cut it down the center to create a “half” pencil and used this to mark the fret height - so that is what I did. Rather than try to cut the pencil, though, I used my drum sander again to sand away the unwanted half of the pencil.
My brother-in-law read my last post where I wrote about buying and using feeler gauges for saws and offered up an old set that he had (and no longer used) for creating my “saws”. Not being one to look a gift horse in the mouth, I accepted and found that this set has a much wider selection of thicknesses.
Friday, July 3, 2009
Inlay and Routing for Binding
Friday, July 03, 2009
Well, as I said on Monday, I have been able to spend quite a bit of time on the mando this week. For starters, I unclamped the body and am really pleased with the way the back came out. Nice and tight and no apparent gaps. Although I said I was planning to use the belt sander to cut down the edges of the top and bottom to match the sides, I chose instead to use my Dremel with a sanding drum attachment instead. This worked really well and I felt a lot more comfortable that I wasn’t going to take away any more wood than need. With that done, it was time to install the point protectors.
Point protectors, if you did not already know, are hard plastic tips that are glued on to the two body points to help minimize damage. The plastic, as I ordered it, comes as a rectangular block that must be shaped to fit. Mr. Siminoff suggests shaping them first, and then gluing them on, but I decided to do it the other way around - glue first, shape in place. Here is how they looked before, during, and after shaping.


For the last couple of days have been focused on cutting out and installing the inlay work on the peghead and then preparing for the installation of the binding around the body. Because this build has taken so much time and I have come to the conclusion the value is minimal, like the ivy carving on the scroll, I have now decided not to do the ivy inlay on the fretboard. Instead, I will simply put my name on the peghead.
From what I have read, the way to go about installing inlays is to cut out the inlay material first (Mother of Pearl, or MOP), use it to trace the outline onto the wood, route out the pattern and, finally, glue it in place. So to start, I printed out a full-scale copy of my pattern and glued it directly to the MOP. Once the glue was dry it was time to start cutting.
It seems that most of the information I could freely find on the web indicates that most people use hand-held coping saws to cut out their MOP inlays, so that is what I figured I would do. To begin, though, I needed a working platform on which I could rest the part while cutting but one that would allow as much motion as possible. For this, I took a scrap piece of 3/4” plywood, cut out a slot with a hole in the center and a tongue that I could clamp in my vice. Here is what it looks like.
I have no idea what those other people use for a saw blade for cutting this stuff, but the saw blade I tried (finest I have) would hardly make a dent in it and the teeth would catch on the material every stroke. I abandoned the coping saw and moved to a cutting wheel on my Dremel. Much better (and quicker).
Now before anyone can jump on this, let me point out that I already knew that breathing MOP dust is bad for ones health so I was sure to wear a good dust mask while cutting. I also rigged up my shop-vac to suck away as much of the dust as possible.
Once I had cut away as much as I could reach with my cutting wheel, I still had some pretty major areas (and some really small, remote ones) that I couldn’t reach with anything I had on hand. I ended up making a run to the hardware store to purchase both a very fine cutting bit for the MOP and a small router bit for later when it came time to route the mating shape in the peghead. Both bits are for the Dremel.
Here I am using the fine cutting bit - also quite time consuming but well worth it.
And here I am cleaning up the finished shape with my jeweler’s files.
Once I was satisfied that the shape was ready, I located my desired position on the peghead, clamped a bottom guide in place (the blade from a small hand-plane, in this case) and traced the shape with a mechanical pencil.
Using the jig I made for cutting my dovetail as a support for the peghead, I clamped the neck to the jig and the jig in the vice in preparation for routing. I attached my Stew-Mac routing base and new bit to my Dremel, I carefully routed out as much of the shape as I could.
Even though the routing took out the vast majority of wood, there was still a fair amount it couldn’t reach. For this I reverted once again to my carving tools and jeweler’s files.
Of course as I carved and filed I would regularly check my fit against the MOP shape. What I found was that regardless of how careful I tried to be, working with the ebony wood made it really difficult to find the high spots and occasional point I had not yet notched. As a result, the cut-out ended up being quite tight in some places and much too wide in others. Here is how it looked before I glued it in.
One of the techniques that Mr. Siminoff shares in his book is that the gluing in process and gap filling process are one-in-the-same. What you do is to mix fine ebony wood dust with white glue (Titebond, in my case) until you have a very dark, almost black, mixture.
Then, using a small trowel, fill the cut-out with the glue mix and gently press the MOP into the cutout until it is fully inserted. Leave the extra glue which will shrink and suck in to where it is needed.
Once everything is dry, scrape and sand smooth.
I ended up having to add extra glue mix to fill in some gaps where I had not left enough extra the first time. Overall, though, I am quite pleased with the way it turned out.
Finally, then, I got started routing and carving the body for the binding. For this I used a router bit and binding router guide, both from Stew-Mac.
I read that this is a very delicate operation and that it was really easy to mess up, so I took extra precaution and I am glad I did. You really need to pay attention to your wood grain, router bit speed, and feed direction when doing this operation. I found that the most important thing was the feed direction. As long as I made sure to feed opposite the direction of the bit (so that I was trying to run over my chips), the tool never tried to get away from me. On the couple of times I tried it the other way, it jumped and pulled away (fortunately without causing any irreparable damage). As with the routing the peghead, there were, naturally, places I couldn’t reach with the router bit. For these, I am having to cut out by hand. That’s where I am right now.
Well, as I said on Monday, I have been able to spend quite a bit of time on the mando this week. For starters, I unclamped the body and am really pleased with the way the back came out. Nice and tight and no apparent gaps. Although I said I was planning to use the belt sander to cut down the edges of the top and bottom to match the sides, I chose instead to use my Dremel with a sanding drum attachment instead. This worked really well and I felt a lot more comfortable that I wasn’t going to take away any more wood than need. With that done, it was time to install the point protectors.
Point protectors, if you did not already know, are hard plastic tips that are glued on to the two body points to help minimize damage. The plastic, as I ordered it, comes as a rectangular block that must be shaped to fit. Mr. Siminoff suggests shaping them first, and then gluing them on, but I decided to do it the other way around - glue first, shape in place. Here is how they looked before, during, and after shaping.
From what I have read, the way to go about installing inlays is to cut out the inlay material first (Mother of Pearl, or MOP), use it to trace the outline onto the wood, route out the pattern and, finally, glue it in place. So to start, I printed out a full-scale copy of my pattern and glued it directly to the MOP. Once the glue was dry it was time to start cutting.
It seems that most of the information I could freely find on the web indicates that most people use hand-held coping saws to cut out their MOP inlays, so that is what I figured I would do. To begin, though, I needed a working platform on which I could rest the part while cutting but one that would allow as much motion as possible. For this, I took a scrap piece of 3/4” plywood, cut out a slot with a hole in the center and a tongue that I could clamp in my vice. Here is what it looks like.
Now before anyone can jump on this, let me point out that I already knew that breathing MOP dust is bad for ones health so I was sure to wear a good dust mask while cutting. I also rigged up my shop-vac to suck away as much of the dust as possible.
Once I had cut away as much as I could reach with my cutting wheel, I still had some pretty major areas (and some really small, remote ones) that I couldn’t reach with anything I had on hand. I ended up making a run to the hardware store to purchase both a very fine cutting bit for the MOP and a small router bit for later when it came time to route the mating shape in the peghead. Both bits are for the Dremel.
Finally, then, I got started routing and carving the body for the binding. For this I used a router bit and binding router guide, both from Stew-Mac.
Sunday, April 12, 2009
Carving the Back
Sunday, April 12, 2009.
What little time I had this week was completely focused on carving the outside of the back. As with the soundboard, I did all of this by hand using my carving tools and scraper. Unlike the soundboard though, for the back I went ahead and clamped the part to the bench while I carved. Clamping certainly makes it a lot easier to remove material than working free-hand does especially when carving on hard wood.
Like the soundboard, I used templates from the book as a guide. This shows my templates laid out in the positions where they were used.


As you can see in the three shots above, I decided to start by clamping one edge to the bench and then remove much of the excess wood from the unclamped side. I figured this would save me time later in the process. As it turns out this really did not help me much and, on my next project, I will not do it again. Rather, I will carve out the shape of each of the patterns, as I did with the soundboard, and then carve the rest to match. This is the technique I ended up using for the most part anyway. Here are more photos after I got most of the body work done.

And then I worked on the top and some on the scroll. Photos below.


As should be clear from this last picture, I have only started roughing the scroll. I imagine I will probably make it somewhat shorter (lower profile) than it is now and, depending on how I end up liking the scroll extension to the back, I may do away with it, too.
What little time I had this week was completely focused on carving the outside of the back. As with the soundboard, I did all of this by hand using my carving tools and scraper. Unlike the soundboard though, for the back I went ahead and clamped the part to the bench while I carved. Clamping certainly makes it a lot easier to remove material than working free-hand does especially when carving on hard wood.
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