Showing posts with label fretboard. Show all posts
Showing posts with label fretboard. Show all posts

Thursday, July 16, 2009

Waiting for Parts and Prep to Practice Finishing

Wednesday, July 15, 2009

While it was drying and then after I took the clamps off, it was pretty apparent from the visible gap between the fretboard and neck that I either applied too much hide-glue or that one or both surfaces were not as flat as they should have been. My guess is probably both.


As you can see, the gap on the bass side is significantly more visible than on the treble side. So I faced a choice - leave it and try to fill the gaps or take the fretboard off and try to level and reglue.

I opted for the former.

At this stage, I think I have made more mistakes and bad decisions than not - so I’m OK with filling the gaps and seeing what I can do to make it look good. I am comfortable that this is not one of those items that will make a noticeable difference in the sound or playability, so it should be just fine.

Since I am still waiting for my parts to arrive so I am having to find other little things to work on until the rest of my binding and stain get here. A couple of the things I found I had to do are shaping the nut, trimming the fretboard extension “ears”, and preparing to seal the soundboard for staining.

I have been reading up on different methods for cutting the grooves in the nut for the strings and most of them are kind of expensive. For example, you can spend anywhere from $50 to $100+ for a set of nut files from Stew-Mac or LMI or you can buy similar items on eBay in about the same price range. Another route I read about, though, is a reasonably inexpensive, home-made one that ought to work really well - create some miniature “saws” using feeler gauges. Here is how this works (in theory); each string size has a specific diameter range - in my case the strings will be .011, .014, .025, and .041 inches in diameter. Because the slots in the nut needs to be just a little bit bigger than the string in order to prevent binding, the slots will ideally be cut to just a little bit larger - in my case I am going to target .013, .016, .027, .043. By taking a set of feeler gauges and sawing shallow slots in one edge, with either my bandsaw or a cutting wheel on my Dremel, I can make a range of “saws” that can then be used to cut slots to the appropriate sizes.

So earlier this week, I went to my local auto parts store and bought a set of feeler gauges for right at $6.00.


As you can see, the gauge sizes do not fall exactly on the slot sizes I am looking for, but I read that it is a pretty easy task to wallow a narrow blade enough to get the size slot you need. Of course, one could always using two blades together, too? We’ll see.

Now that the fretboard is glued down and dry I am able trim the extension “ears” down to give the fretboard a more graceful visual transition to the soundboard.

I couldn’t see any easier way to do this than to use my carving tools and then sand them smooth, so that is what I did. Aside from some minor grain issues that made carving a bit tricky, this went pretty smoothly. Here are the finished results.


As you will undoubtedly notice, there is still a fair amount of finish work I need to do to the soundboard scroll, but you can an idea how filling the gaps in the bass side of the fretboard is going to work - obviously a bit more sanding and scraping to do, but I think its looking pretty good.

And finally, I will soon be looking to stain and finish this old girl. But before I do, I thought it a wise idea to try out some of the techniques I have been reading about on my previously ruined soundboards.

Here is the soundboard before sealing it. All that has been done to it (except ruining it, of course) was to sand it down with 320 grit paper.

To begin with, I thought I would try sealing the wood using a slightly diluted mixture of hide-glue.

From what I have read, a lot of people have trouble getting their stains to come out uniform when staining raw wood, especially on the end-grain of spruce soundboards. Consequently, a common practice is to seal the wood first, sand it down really well after it dries, and then apply your stain. As you can imagine, there are many different opinions and options for this, each with its pros and cons, one of which is the hide-glue method. Since I already have it and hide-glue is an accepted sealer by many luthiers, I thought it sounded like a good one for me.

I didn’t find anybody saying exactly what formula they used to mix their glue, only that it needed to be thin enough to brush on, so I went with about a 1 part glue to 3 parts water ratio (by weight) and then heated it up to about 135 degrees F before brushing it on.

If you look closely, you can see in this photo where I have just started brushing the hide-glue on.

And here is what it looks like after 24 hours of drying, but no sanding yet. I will let it cure for another 24 hours before I begin to stand.

Sunday, June 28, 2009

Installing Fretboard Binding and Frets

Sunday, June 28, 2009.

This week was dedicated to binding the fretboard and then installing the frets. I know it doesn’t sound like much, but these two steps took an unexpectedly long time (true for a novice like me, I am sure, less I suspect once you have done it a few times).

After having completed cutting my fret slots, my next step was to bend and install the binding on the fretboard. The binding I bought is a white plastic strip that measures .060" thick x .250" wide. Being stiff and relatively brittle, the first step is to shape it to the contours of the fretboard and then glue it in place. Shaping is done with heat and the recommended glue to attach it to the ebony fretboard is weld-on cement.

During my research, I read several stories by folks who, using heat-guns to shape their binding, had overheated it and “turned it to ash”. This is good to know since I already have a heat-gun and it is the method I chose to use. Other heating methods include boiling water and hot sand or glass beads and I will probably try the boiling water method when it comes time to shape the binding for the body, but for this, I used the heat gun.

At the base of the fretboard there are several relatively sharp curves around which I needed to be quite sure that my bends were accurate, especially with respect to each other. To accomplish this, I made a small jig out of some scrap wood and drill bits.

To make this, I traced the outline of my fretboard onto the wood and then found appropriately sized drill bits that roughly matched the inside diameter of each of the bends. As you can see, I drilled the holes and then used the bits themselves as my “posts” to bend the binding around (these photos are of my first attempt at this jig where I tried to use a rod in one location rather than a drill bit - it didn’t work out so well, so I ended up making another jig). By holding the binding between the bits and then carefully applying heat, it was pretty easy to get the curves where I needed them.


Because I have a sharp corner at the base of the fretboard, I made my binding from two pieces. If you have a different contour for yours, you might want to make this from a single piece of binding. Using weld-on cement from Stew-Mac, I glued my first piece to the fretboard and held it with a combination of spring clamps and C-clamps.

Gluing turned out to be a less than perfect operation. It seems that the cement needs to be applied relatively heavy and then dries pretty quickly. I did not expect this and was not as speedy when applying my clamps as I should have. Consequently I ended up having to re-glue several places. Once I did, though, it seems to hold well.

In the second photo above, you can also see a shiny spot where the glue got on the surface of the fretboard. When this happened, I was worried that it might damage the wood or cause a stain but this turns out to not be the case. Once everything dried (24 hours) and I scraped the binding down to the thickness of the fretboard, the glue scraped right off.

Time to install the frets.

Fretwire seems to come generally in two forms - long rolls and short, straight sections. If you are a serious builder looking to make many instruments, it probably makes sense to buy your fretwire in bulk, or roll form. If you are only making one or two, like me right now, it makes sense to buy just what you need. So I bought two lengths of straight sections.

Now one of the things I read, written repeatedly by various luthiers, is that it is best to curve or arch the fret wire a little bit so that when installing it, the ends make contact before the center. This is to prevent the ends from popping out again after they are installed. Apparently this is relatively common when the wire is not arched but not so much if it is. So, wanting to do this, I looked for a way to do it. As it turns out, you can bend it by hand (the method I ended up using), cut a groove in your workbench and pull the wire through it (similar to the method you might use to curl strips of paper by pulling them down across the edge of a table), or build/buy a bending device from one of the luthier supply houses. Bending by hand, while being pretty easy, was also pretty inconsistent, but I think it worked out well enough for me.

Once I had a gentle curve in the wire, it was time to cut to length. The method I ended up using for the majority of my wires was to hold the wire against the fretboard and, using a standard set of side cutters, cut the wire as closely as possible to the edge of the fretboard. This method allows the wires to hang most of the way over the binding when installed.


Obviously, since the binding itself does not have slots cut in it, I needed to trim the “tang” on the wire at both ends. To do this, I used a grinding disk on my Dremel to cut away about 1/8” of the tang.

Then it was a simple case of hammering the frets into the slots on the fretboard. For this I used a hard plastic mallet while holding the fretboard back against the anvil section of my vice. To aid with the ends-before-center idea of the curved fretwire, I tapped in both ends first before tapping in the center. Here is what it looked like after installing the first three frets.

I don’t really like the look of the first two fret wires so I decided going to replace them but figured I better wait until all the other frets were installed before doing that.


Here it is after all the wires were installed. I do have some extra wire left so I will be replacing those first two frets.


And, finally, here is what I did toward making the fretboard extension. It is made from a scrap piece of maple and will be attached at the base of the neck under the fretboard for extra support.


As you can see from this picture, something is not quite right. I suspect that the soundboard is too thick right below where the extension makes contact so my current thought is to scrape and sand it lower and then, where needed, trim the extension to match.

With the fretboard laying on the neck and the nut (yet to be shaped) in place for spacing, it looks and feels pretty good. It even appears that the 15th fret is pretty much aligned with the break line where the neck and body meet as it should.

As I looked at this side view for the first time, I was concerned with the gap between the neck and the back of the fretboard. Having laid the two together before, I did not find the gap then, but now I do. Then it occurred to me - the difference is the frets. With them installed, there are 30 small “wedges” forcing the top surface apart and, therefore, causing it to bow. Once I have it glued on the neck and fretboard extension, this should straighten right out. It also lets me know that I don’t want to do any form of fret leveling until then, either.

Saturday, June 20, 2009

Slotting the Fretboard

Saturday, June 20, 2009.

Well, happily, it appears I lied (well, how about "was mistaken"). I was able to get a little a little bit done on the fretboard after all. Not only was I able to cut it to the ebony shape, I was also able to order, receive, and use my Stew-Mac fret saw and miter-box as well. I also learned a couple of valuable things.

The first thing I learned was that it is easier to shape the neck to the fretboard than it is to shape the fretboard to the neck. I’ll explain - the fretboard, as a whole, consists of the ebony veneer (or whatever hardwood you end up using - I am using ebony), the binding, and finally the frets. In Siminoff’s book, he has you shape the neck and then, later, go build the fretboard assembly. This is fine, assuming you are careful enough right from the beginning to not allow yourself to cut the neck too close to its finished width. I did and, as I now know, I also went to far in a couple of places.

Another way thai I now know about, is to make the fretboard assembly first (since it is flat and thin it is much easier to control its dimensions) and then use it as your template for the final shaping of the neck. Why is this easier, you might ask? Well, for me anyway, having the fretboard done first gives me a real-world limit that, for some reason, is just psychologically better than a template - I know that the fretboard is what I will ACTUALLY be using and I cannot afford to make the neck narrower than it or I have to start over. With the template, however, I'm never quite sure where exactly to stop. It might be just me, but there it is.

So for this mandolin now, I am having to make the fretboard a bit narrow to match the neck, but since it’s mine and not for anyone else, this is something I can live with. It’s a learning thing, after all.

To get the proper shape then for the fretboard, I started by cutting the ebony blank to the shape of Siminoff’s template. This gave me the correct length and shape, especially for the base. I then held the initial cutout against the neck and traced its shape onto the back of the ebony and then, because I am going to bind this with some 0.06” thick plastic binding, I offset the traced line by about 0.05”. I then re-cut the ebony to its new, narrower dimension, ready for the binding. Once the binding is installed and the assembly is attached to the neck, I should have just enough overhang to allow me to scrape the binding to match the neck without making it look too thin.

All of this I did last Saturday and, before setting out for my business trip, I also ordered my fret saw and miter box from Stewart-MacDonald. When I returned on Friday evening, there on my desk sat my new saw and miter box, just begging to get used, so today I did. This is also where I learned my other lesson for the week - cut your fret slots BEFORE you cut your fretboard to shape. Why? Because the wood is still square (or at least you should be able to make it that way) and this is really helpful when using a miter box which is, by design, cutting the slots perpendicular to its sides. Because I had already cut my fretboard sides on an angle, I now had to find a way to line it up so that my slots were cut perpendicular to the centerline of the fretboard. Here is what I did.


In the first photo, you can see I have screwed the miter box down to my workbench. Fortunately, the designer of the box builds the thing with three counter-sunk holes so it can be screwed down without interfering with the work. I then placed a wedge shaped piece of wood inside the miter box to hold the centerline of my fretboard perpendicular to the cross-cut of the saw. This is actually one of the two scrap pieces from when I originally cut out the fretboard from the ebony blank. Once I had this located so that the slots at both ends could be cut, I glued it in place with Titebond. After the glue dried, I cut a slot in it with the fret saw. This served as my locating guide and is shown in the second photo.

The next set of photos show where I lined up and made my first cut.



When I was cutting the first couple of slots, I held the wood with my left hand while working the saw with my right. I figured I didn’t want to mess with having to clamp/unclamp for each of the 30 slots and the slots aren’t very deep...This, I found, is not the best way to do it. Not only was I pulling the wood away from the guide pretty regularly but my left hand got really tired, really quickly. Enough, I said. I used clamps for the rest of the slots - much easier to clamp and unclamp than to try to manually hold the wood with a fatigued hand.

In this shot you can see where I am using some wood cauls to hold the fretboard rather than just the clamps. I initially had to do this because of the design of my workbench and where I chose to screw down the miter box rather than because of the clamps or the work itself. Toward the end as I cut the last few slots, though, it became necessary anyway in order to clamp the work securely, so close to the saw blade. I think this shows up pretty well in the picture.

And here it is after all the slots were cut.

This picture shows that some of the slots are off by a very small amount one way or the other. I credit this to the fact that I cut the fretboard to shape before cutting the slots. Had I slotted it first with a square piece of wood, I feel confident the slots would have been more accurately located and probably more square. Once again though, I think this something I can live with. If it turns out to be enough of an issue once I am finished, I can always remove it (I will be using hide-glue to attach it to the neck) and build a new one to replace it.

Sunday, January 25, 2009

Introduction

Sunday, January 25, 2009

Welcome to my blog.

Before I get started, I want to share something with you. I really have no idea what I am getting myself into here. I have never built a stringed musical instrument before, let alone been to a shop where they do. I do not (yet) have a shop full of lutherie tools (in fact, I don’t own ANY luthier-specific tools yet), nor have I had any training other than general woodworking things Dad showed me as a kid and one basic shop class in High School. All that aside, I’m going for it full-bore.

This project will be to build a highly detailed, customized F-style mandolin with white pearl inlays and a custom carved front. I will start with raw materials - no preformed or pre-shaped pieces (except, of course, for the tuners, tailpiece, end pin, and such) - and use typical instrument grade components like European spruce for the top, curly maple for the back, sides, and neck, and hide glue for my adhesive. I intend to use power tools to rough-out most of the waste materials (no CNC) and then hand carve and finish everything else including the top, back, and neck. I hope to do all this with only the help of some books I bought (see the next post for details) and whatever information I can find on the internet. I will be doing all this work at my house (with my wife’s blessing, of course) in either the basement/garage or in an upstairs bedroom where we currently store, and occasionally use, exercise equipment. As I go along, I intend to detail everything I buy, build, or modify including tools and materials. I also plan to share all the prices I find and, when it is not obvious, why I chose one selection over the others.

I have decided to start this project for three reasons: One, I am bored and have no real “hobby” I can get into here at the house. Sure there is yard-work, the honey-do list, etc., but when those are done (or being ignored - don’t tell my wife), I don’t have a project. Two, I have been teaching myself to play the mandolin for about 8 years, love the instrument, and now, with the price of quality instruments being what it is, I would love to have - but not spend all that money on one. Three, I love deeply involved, intricate projects, where the results are lasting, visually apparent, and impressive. This seems like a good way to satisfy all three.

So now that you know why I want to build a mandolin, you may be wondering why I have decided to build what promises to be about the most difficult level of mandolin build right out of the chute. Wouldn’t it be better to start with maybe an A-style mandolin, possibly a flat-top, or even a kit? Travel your learning curve on an instrument that is a little less costly? Sure it would. All those are much safer and probably far more intelligent approaches to learning the art and craft of lutherie. But that is not me. Traveling any of those paths would feel like a compromise and one that would likely end up causing me to lose interest, take short-cuts, or possibly even lower my standards as I build. I don’t want to do that. I want the extra challenge and the potential to finish with a result where people go “WOW...And this was his first one?”

Lets just hope I am up for the task.

I would also like to take the time to credit a couple of guys for some of the inspiration and information I have used to get started here. I anticipate checking back with both as I go along with my build.

If you haven’t found him yet, there is guy who has his own blog where has started building an A-style mandolin from a kit (clearly he is far more intelligent then I am). Check him out HERE.

There is guy in Japan, an amateur luthier, too, who has a blog detailing his build of a guitar. It’s quite impressive. Check his work out HERE.

I’m going to go ahead and end this first post here and get into details of what I have done so far in my next post.